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We have seen customers reduce 48 hour backup windows down to 10 minutes with DPM, ... With DPM, customers never have to do a full backup from the production server again; they only have to do incremental backups, which are much more efficient. Bob Muglia
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We have backup systems ... We are able to process passengers, get them checked in in the lobby, put them on airplanes and get airplanes out, but we are running probably 60 to 90 minutes late. Jeff Green
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I had never dreamed about the NBA like some guys did. I was a non-scholarship player at an NAIA college. I played on the Boys and Girls Club team in my freshman and sophomore years of high school before I made the high school team. I was our backup center in college. Terry Porter
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When you walk into that job, it can be a little overwhelming. Getting all your starters lined up, your backup starters lined up, getting your bullpen guys throwing in a routine. Once he gets a handle on that, he'll be fine. It all works out in Spring Training. Joe Kerrigan
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We're having open tryouts for backup quarterback and punter today (Monday). Those two guys do so many things for us that it's really tough to lose them, even for a few weeks. Jamie Mitchell
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We're going to press them, but we're going to stick to our guns and play man-to-man. Do we have a backup plan? Yeah, but I'm hoping we don't need to go to it. Will Brown
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We are all just competing real hard right now to backup Troy. We all know Troy is the main man right now. We are just here to push him and just compete. Todd Boeckman
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Mission-critical data that goes missing could result in legal liabilities and regulatory compliance violations -- an intolerable situation. One would expect that security-conscious organizations would include tape encryption as a standard security defense. Unfortunately, this hypothesis simply isn't true. In a survey of 388 storage professionals, ESG found that only 7 percent of users reported that they always encrypt their backup data while 60 percent said that they never do. There will likely be many more instances of lost tapes, which may lead to embarrassing public disclosures and expensive notification efforts. Jon Oltsik
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Leadership doesn't come from age. He's a young leader. He's not just any other backup quarterback coming into the game. We know what he's capable of. Tony Gonzalez
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Mainly, I thought of Barney as a kid. You can always look into the faces of kids and see what they're thinking, if they're happy or sad. That's what I tried to do with Barney. Don Knotts
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One of the first members of Congress I met when I was first elected in 2008 was Barney Frank. Chellie Pingree
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I have always loved the character of Barney Fife. Sammy Sawyer
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My first-ever concert was the Barney concert when I was, like, six. My mum took me because I was obsessed with Barney. Barney was actually my first crush... He's, like, literally better than all the guys in the whole world. Gigi Hadid
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They came out over the highway and they stopped and that's when Barney got out, with the binoculars to try and identify the craft. I mean, he'd been in the military in World War Two, he's puzzled. Betty Hill
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Barney was interested in bringing professional boxing back to Northern Ireland in a big way. Barry McGuigan
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Both teams had to make critical plays defensively. Obviously, Kelly Labor's a great player, but they have other great players - Ann Barney and some of those kids. We didn't want to end up in a 1-on-1 situation. We always had players sliding across. David Cope
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Whenever Don Knotts and I were waiting for lighting cues, we would sing hymns in harmony, ... The show depicted Barney as tone deaf, but Don has a beautiful tenor voice. Andy Griffith
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Everybody knows him as Barney and you know that's what I remember about him. He's always cutting up giving us a good time. He's what made the show. Chris Smith
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We have seen a continued drop beyond Paris, but persistence near the capital. We cannot yet claim victory. Patrick Hamon
beyond clients pampered
We want our clients to feel pampered beyond expectations. Dave Wiggins
beyond raised
The expectations have started to be lowered, but I think expectations were raised beyond justification. Jesse Reynolds
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The fact is that Tom Campbell is like you and me. He is not a career politician like Tom DeLay. He is a citizen politician. Tom Campbell calls on Tom DeLay to get beyond the negative, immaterial distractions and get back to the real issues that are important to the people of the district. Michael Stanley
beyond bond both initial issues morning number rally range remain stock stuck until
The CPI number this morning sparked a rally in both stock and bond markets. But beyond the initial reaction, I think we're going to remain stuck in this range until other issues get resolved. Timothy Ghriskey
beyond bond both initial issues morning number rally range remain stock stuck until
The CPI number this morning sparked a rally in both stock and bond markets, ... But beyond the initial reaction, I think we're going to remain stuck in this range until other issues get resolved. Timothy Ghriskey
beyond cannot confines exercise freedom inside lies move seek touched true wisely
The true exercise of freedom is - cannily and wisely and with grace - to move inside what space confines - and not seek to know what lies beyond and cannot be touched or tasted. A. S. Byatt
beyond future industry newspaper slower time
The future regulatory arrangements for the newspaper industry need to be done in a much calmer deliberative way, in slower time when we've got beyond this media firestorm. Thomas Watson, Jr.
beyond came dude hip hop people rapper scratch seriously sings surface
I feel like a lot of people in the hip hop world don't take me seriously as a rapper, and I feel that first-and-foremost I came up as a rapper before I started singing. All a lot of people know from me is 'Cupid's Chokehold,' and they don't scratch the surface and see beyond that dude who sings the song about his girlfriend. Travie McCoy
center tough
We have to get one of our center fielders going. They are young, and it's a tough game, but we have to get them going. Joe Girardi
center community follow gets
We have to follow that project. That has to be done before the community center gets done. Dee Price
center game hit missed shots
We have to finish. We missed a breakaway, we had two center shots and we had one that hit the post. If we make those, the game is over. Dave Hilliard
center intention people pepsi returning
We have no intention of returning to the Pepsi Center. And we've told the Pepsi Center people that. Chuck D.
centers close fourth kids offense played proud robinson running stepped team tonight
We have never been 5-0. One thing I can say about this team is we have been in some close games, but find a way to win. I am real proud of the kids tonight because we played without (senior running back Nate) Robinson for most of the fourth quarter. A lot of our offense centers around him, but the kids stepped up. Paul Bauer
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When he gets going, he?s extremely powerful. He loves physical contact. He?s strong on his feet, has a low center of gravity and accelerates into hits with his knees bent. Tim Taylor
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We were trailing by 13 points when our center Brook Crane went down with an elbow injury. We rallied and got to within three points, 26-23, before we were forced to foul and they made their shots. Mike Curtis
center drive earth man miles reason sent
We've sent a man to the moon, and that's 29,000 miles away. The center of the Earth is only 4,000 miles away. You could drive that in a week, but for some reason nobody's ever done it. Andy Rooney
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And as an American colleague said to me several months ago, he said, 'I think the challenge in Jordan - and, again, this is for the rest of the Middle East - we need to define what center is. And once we can define what center is to a Jordanian, then we can decide what's left and what's right of that. Abdallah II of Jordan
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When foreign investors enter Vietnam, they must follow the country's labor rules. If they don't, the Vietnamese government has the responsibility to enforce the law or expel the company. The government has to protect the worker. The unions that represent workers in factories of foreign and joint-stock companies are weak. They don't have the strength to stand up to the management. Long Nguyen
companies figure life seen
We've seen these long-term outlooks a lot more of late, and for the life of me I can't figure out why these companies are doing it. Bill Brady
companies high peak prices producing products seen
We've seen hazelnut prices peak at $11-12 a kilo (9-10 euros), from $2-3 a kilo. That's not an evolution, that's a revolution, and for companies producing products with high hazelnut content, that's a real disaster. Karsten Keunecke
companies pollution reduce seen
We've seen companies reduce their pollution because of this. Nancy Alderman
companies cross offers record taking turned
We have had a lot of offers from record companies to go into the studio, but they wanted us to cross over. We turned them down. Instead, we are taking the cross with us. Allen Bailey
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The fact that price pressures are muted suggests that earnings growth of Indian companies will continue to be driven by volume growth, not by pricing power. Abheek Barua
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The fact that oil companies are enjoying record profits when consumers are paying record high prices does not sit well with people. Tyson Slocum
companies fact managers middle
... The fact that middle managers think their companies are mismanaged is particularly alarming. Ed Jensen
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The creation of these sites is akin to the government aiding and abetting an illegal underground economy that puts legitimate companies out of business. Steve Levy
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When you're writing personal stories, you have to be totally uncompromising - to the extent that you can be - about yourself. I know that if I am uber-uncompromising with myself, that gives me some latitude to write about others. Rob Lowe
extent government informed rules
We have rules on the extent to which the government would have to be informed and consulted. Thomas Steg
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The extent of the rate hike this time is fairly small. What is more important is whether or not more lies ahead. And even if there are further rate hikes, it is investment that will first be impacted, followed by consumption. Wang Zheng
extent impact injuries left matches vehicle
The extent of the impact on the vehicle matches with the injuries to his left side, Kevin Cook
extent maybe pursue
We?re interested, maybe intrigued, but not to the extent we would pursue it. Bill Boynton
extent money
I think to the extent you die with money in the bank, you've miscalculated. Gary David Goldberg
extent fact great others prices
When we were buying, many others were also buying, and to a great extent in fact and at prices that we never would have wanted to pay. Wendelin Wiedeking
extent headlines primary straight
The primary uncertainty right now is the extent of damage, and headlines there will go straight into prices. Deborah White
extent force lost
Many other tenants also lost people, and they did not force us to go to this extent to collect. Gerald McKelvey
fund knowledge ocean submit talking whatsoever
We have no knowledge whatsoever of who Ocean Fund is and what they are talking about. We own them (the Caesars properties), and they didn't submit anything to us. James Gallagher
funding indian intended programs
We have never intended to 'cut into the pie' of funding for Indian programs and services, Daniel Akaka
funds people raise receive
We want people to come, not only to raise funds for this family, but also for them to receive a blessing. Susan Uhrik
funds money shame spends
When a person earns money, it makes sense if he spends it himself. It's a shame when a person earns money, and some strange funds spend it. Sergey Galitsky
funding taken
We know we have it (PRP) for 2006, but funding has been taken away for 2007. However, it could be back in 2008. Rod Nelson
fund venture
Venture capitalists wouldn't fund us because it wasn't wireless. Donna Dubinsky
fundamentals environment members
The environment is so fundamental to our continued existence that it must transcend politics and become a central value of all members of society. David Suzuki
fundraising rights campaigns
I'm also involved in the rights of the disabled and do some fundraising for that and I thought it would have been a big boost for the campaign but it couldn't be worked out. David Prowse
fundraising entrepreneur email
I get a lot of emails from entrepreneurs. The best ones are short, to the point and include some question and/or the product Jason Calacanis
funds people raise receive
We want people to come, not only to raise funds for this family, but also for them to receive a blessing. Susan Uhrik
funds money shame spends
When a person earns money, it makes sense if he spends it himself. It's a shame when a person earns money, and some strange funds spend it. Sergey Galitsky
funds money
As a rule, bond funds will not double your money overnight. Louis Navellier
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We are proud to be in a position to offer these funds to the community. Personally, I'm honored to represent this group of vintners who lend a hand whether it be for Hurricane Katrina relief or to help a neighbor in need. Hugh Davies
funds longer pay sophomore
When I was a sophomore in college, my father called me at the fraternity. He told me he no longer had the funds to pay for college. If I wanted to continue, I would have to do it on my own. Terry J. Lundgren
funds moved seeing side sure surprise
What we're seeing now is that some funds had moved to the side making sure there wasn't a bearish surprise and now they are rotating back into the long side, Jim Ritterbusch
funds grips
We are also in the grips of liquidations by hedge funds and a lot of dealers don't want to see big exposures, William Sullivan
funds portfolio
Therefore, a portfolio with 10 or even 15 funds is not uncommon. Ron Pearson
funds generate goal looking operate operating raised since trying
Since then there has been some rethinking and the goal has been raised because we are looking at trying to also generate some operating funds. To get the renovation is one thing, but then once it's renovated, we need funds to operate it. Thomas Hill
happened happening stories television watching
When I'm watching television or a movie, I like to see stories that are extraordinary. I don't need it be something that is, 'Well this makes more sense to me because I can see this happening to me, or this happened to me.' Justin Kirk
happened process tainted
The process of what happened and how it happened was very troubling, and I think it tainted the whole situation. Richard Shelby
happened looked martial movies
I'm looked upon as a theater actor who happened to know martial arts before I got into the movies. Thomas Ian Griffith
happened personally spot trying
Oh, she just happened to be a friend of the producer's. Or, oh, they've been trying to get her from the beginning and she just had a spot open up. There are always little loopholes, so I don't take anything personally anymore. Ellen Muth
happened known supposed until
I've known for years that you're supposed to be present. I know that thinking about what's happened or thinking about what I want is not going to get me anywhere, but until I quit doing it I'm not present. Mariel Hemingway
happened last moderate shows steady
When you take a look at what's happened in the last month, you see the same kind of pace?right on down the line. It shows a nice, steady moderate pace, which is what you want. Delos Smith
happened happens paper
It doesn't matter what odds are on paper or what's happened before. It matters what happens that moment. Holly Holm
happened justify last sit three
We're not going to sit here and try to justify what happened two or three years ago and what happened last year, Jon Gruden
happened ranks top
This ranks right up there, ... Right up there at the top with anything that happened with the Bulls. Steve Kerr
initial steps
We have initiated an investigation because we feel there were some discrepancies that we have encountered, but right now we're in the initial steps of the investigation. Joe Laud
initially leading
Much of what was said was initially said by the cooperating witness, ... It was leading questions. Johnny Griffin
initial matter talking walk whether
On the initial accreditation it was a matter of whether we?re talking the talk. Now, it?s can we walk the walk? Christine Crocker
initial matter talking walk whether
On the initial accreditation, it was a matter of whether talking the talk. Now its can we walk the walk, Christine Crocker
initial
My initial thought was that I was going to try out for the team. Jaime Dacey
initial move phase reaction simplify took
My initial reaction was, 'What took them so long?' ... They had too many brands, too many fiefdoms, and they had to simplify it. Even after they phase out Oldsmobile, they'll have too many, but I don't see them making another move for the foreseeable future. David Healy
initial less reaction television
My initial reaction was, I couldn't be less interested. I thought, I'm going to do more television. Why would I do Internet? Harvey Levin
initial less reaction
My initial reaction was, I couldn't be less interested, Harvey Levin
initial million
One million units by 2008 is just an initial aim. Martin Winterkorn
investment ourselves period second
We've complemented that with a second office to think about how we need to prepare ourselves for that period 10 or 15 or 20 years from now, by way of investment in our technology, our organization and our people. Stephen Cambone
investment social program
Social Security is a family insurance program, not an investment scheme. Diane Watson
investment largest polarizing quest realized represents styling
This Quest represents the largest mid-life investment in Nissan's history. We realized the styling of the Quest was polarizing for some owners. Brad Bradshaw
investment rate structure value wise
We're saying, like a lot of communities do, that here's a value to these jobs. It's a wise investment to look at a differing rate structure for industry. Bob Wheeler
investment maggie town
We're making a substantial investment into the town of Maggie Valley. Mike Toohey
investment perfect pressure skills themselves tremendous
Women's skills and abilities are no different from men's but they put a tremendous pressure on themselves to make perfect investment decisions. Christopher Hayes
investment revenue concepts
I consider each business investment based on concept and revenue. Daymond John
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Since independence, Japan has been Bangladesh's largest development partner, but private investment from Japan remained at low level in that sense. Mahbubur Rahman
investment stage company
Groupon looked like a very high valuation, but any investment in a great company at any stage is almost always a good investment. Ben Horowitz
keys plates focused
I'm more focused at the plate- that's the key. Carlos Gonzalez
keys humanity three
Presentiments are strange things: and so are sympathies; and so are signs; and the three combined make one mystery to which humanity had not yet found the key. Charlotte Bronte
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If a dread of not being understood be hidden in the breasts of other young people to anything like the extent to which it used to be hidden in mine - which I consider probable, as I have no particular reason to suspect myself of having been a monstrosity - it is the key to many reservations. Charles Dickens
keys imagination mind
A vile imagination, once indulged, gets the key of our minds, and can get in again very easily, whether we will or no, and can so return as to bring seven other spirits with it more wicked than itself; and what may follow no one knows. Charles Spurgeon
key local party political transcend willing
When you get to local issues, it's all about problem-solving for the community, and he's a person who'd be willing to do that, to transcend political party lines. That willingness is the key to success. Onnie Shekerjian
key seniors six
We have six seniors that just play off each other as one. We don't have one key guy. We're going to have to play some defense. Frank Allocco
keys hip-hop bakeries
Now when it comes to getting bread I got the keys to the bakery DJ Paul
keys easy key-to-success
The key to success is to be easy to work with. DJ Quik
keys waiting looks
This company looks cheap, that company looks cheap, but the overall economy could completely screw it up. The key is to wait. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is to do nothing. David Tepper
offices responsibility terms wives
There are wives who are very involved with their husbands' offices and really take their responsibility seriously in terms of issues and things like that. I was never very comfortable with being part of that. Niki Tsongas
offices people sit
We see some representatives out here, but I think most sit in their offices and don't see the people that they affect, J. M. Roberts
offices
You cannot be in your offices every day doing nothing... and at the end of the day you expect to be paid. Yahya Jammeh
offices sitting
Those offices have not been sitting on their hands. William Donaldson
offices seeing start stores
What you're going to start seeing is the infrastructure the roads, doctor's offices and stores come next. Glenn Martin
offices ugliest
For 'Breaking Bad,' our offices were in the ugliest building in Burbank, California. Which, if you know Burbank, is really saying something. Peter Gould
offices prosecutor sort standard
It sort of said we should be the standard as to what other prosecutor offices should be doing. Jay Cairns
offices stuff wisconsin
All the Wisconsin and Beloit stuff in their offices made me feel at home, Herb Kohl
operations otherwise risk transform ultimately
Ultimately it's going to be better for the patient. It's going to transform otherwise high-risk operations into lower-risk operations. John Byrne
operations system
Basically, you've got one and two in programming and one and two in system operations now all interconnected in a little knot. Mark Cooper
operations performed
I feel that the operations could and should have been performed a lot sooner, David Moffett
operations ruling similar since
But since they have been a part of similar operations previously we are not ruling out the possibility. Ajay Singh
operations preparing since
We've been preparing for such operations ever since 2003. Hong Zhijian
operations
We think that cross-border operations would be unwise. E. O. Wilson
operations stop
There is a possibility that we will have to stop operations by the end of the year. Paul Costa
operations voting
Voting operations (in the countryside) are normal, with some exceptions. Max Mathurin
operations tend
when it comes to operations on that continent, we tend to do it on the cheap. Kofi Annan
personnel score shut somebody step three
I don't think you can shut down all three of us. If it happens, somebody (else) has got to step up. We do have the personnel to step up and score for us. Paul Davies
personnel regarding specifics
I can't get into specifics regarding personnel issues. Mike King
personnel
We wanted nothing but a win, not showboating or any of that. That's just how we play. ... We don't have the personnel to play that other way. Chauncey Billups
personnel press quicker
We're always physical, we'll always play like that. We're going to play a lot quicker than we have played. We're going to press a lot more. We have the personnel that can play the way we want to. Pat Coyle
personnel slow withdraw
If we don't get money, we must withdraw personnel and slow down the reconstruction of houses. Markku Niskala
personnel
I think the personnel is here to get that done. Jim Tracy
personnel tech texas
It is pretty unique. They probably have all the Texas Tech tapes, and know what the different personnel does. Gerald Myers
personnel playing scratch starting
They're starting from scratch on defense, so we don't have any film of their personnel playing that defense. We do have an idea what they'll do, but we know we'll have to make some mid-game adjustments. Chip Hester
questions
We have as many questions as we do answers. We have in-house candidates. Clint Hurdle
questions
There are a lot of complicated questions to answer. Joseph Grundfest
question strike
The possibility of a strike exists. There is no question about it. The possibility is distant, but it exists. Stuart Klaskin
question taken
We started on this about two years ago. There?s no question that this has taken a long time. Jim Coleman
question represent
We're here to represent our constituents, and there's no question they want this bill. Rep. Schultheis
question
This question may as well be in Chinese. Meggie Ford
question shooting wind
With the wind blowing, (and) shooting 2 under here, you've got to be happy, there's no question about that. Tom Jr.
question stores
There is no question the stores are prepped and warned. Richard Jaffe
question
There is no question that we're not where we need to be on offense. But I think we can get there. Phillip Fulmer
response experiments theorems
Response, when asked how he came upon his theorems. Carl Friedrich Gauss
response
We did not get any response with that either. Jesse Cole
response
We are awaiting New Delhi's response on it. Tasneem Ahmed
response physiological
Humor is an almost physiological response to fear. Kurt Vonnegut
response
When this all started, I didn't know what to expect. But, the response has been phenomenal. Larry Steach
response understand
I don't understand why the response wasn't instantaneous. Greg Stone
response
I'd like to see the developers' response to the neighborhood's concerns. Barbara Smith
response shock
My first response --- shock and awe. It's like, Where did this come from? Jeff Koenings
response teachers teaching
I think a lot of teachers feel like they're teaching to a test. Our response is you teach to a student, you really teach to the kid. Erin Gruwell
seems songs
The extraordinary thing about Irving Berlin is that he's like the American Mozart! It seems as if his songs were always there. How do you put together songs like 'Always' or 'Cheek To Cheek'? Songs of his are, frankly, perfect. Maury Yeston
seems interfere
Work doesn't seem to interfere with my life. I have time for everything, even time to be alone. Carolina Herrera
seems situation stop trying
We're in a situation where we just can't stop the bleeding. We keep trying to put band-aids on the wound, but nothing seems to help. John Sacchi
seems work
When you stop thinking about something, the idea comes to you. It seems to work. Jim Rash
seems ifs
I have to tell you I never in my life anticipated getting this old, this fast. It seems as if I were 25 just a few days ago. Ben Stein
seems three
With three kids, it seems like I'm always shelling out $5 here and $5 there, Laurie Lee
seems
There's something about [cyclically] doing something over and over and over that seems to be particularly demotivating. Dan Ariely
seems worlds
It seems like there are two worlds out there - one that has revolved around 'Breaking Bad,' and then the one that I've been in, which just kind of observes it from afar. Todd Rundgren
seems
We're going to do what we've been doing all year. It seems to be working fine. Nicole Piggott
smith
Mr. Smith was the first person in the door, so to speak, R. Ingram
smith talk
Tubby Smith always went out of his way to be friendly. He had me in his office. He would talk to me while we waited. He always made me feel at home. Bill Donovan
smith throw
The question I always get is, Why didn't you throw Dr. Smith off the Jupiter? I get that all the time. Mark Goddard
smith
And the first smith was the first murderer's son. William Cowper
smith
I never cook. My favorite place to eat is Smith & Wollensky in Chicago. Jonathan Toews
smith thanks wonderful
I just want to say thanks very much Graeme Smith for that wonderful win. Gideon Sam
trade-zone people tunes
Most British people are keen to remain in a European free trade zone; and most EU states are keen to keep us there, because we buy from them more than we sell to them to the tune of £40 million per day. Daniel Hannan
trade ruined nations
No nation has ever been ruined by trade. Benjamin Franklin
trademarks controversy
I am a shocker. I like to create controversy. It's my trademark. Brenda Fassie
trade moody
Music, moody food Of us that trade in love. William Shakespeare
trade watching
My sense is there will not be a rehearing and trade will continue. But we have to be watching all the time. Stan Eby
trademark
I don't care. My trademark is I say what I think, for better or for worse. Gray Davis
trade
I remember a big meeting with the hosiery trade in Harold's ministerial room. Barbara Castle
trade useful
We think this will be a very useful tool, but you will have to give up some of your privacy. For many of us, that trade off will make a lot of sense. Marissa Mayer
traded work
When we traded him, I would say that was probably a lose-lose. It didn't work out well for anyone. Dave Checketts